Becoming an ex-medic

[leicanthrope]

Here's a weird one... I'm working on a Soldbuch for a guy in my unit who wants to have a history as a Sani, but wants to come out as an infantryman. (He used to be an army medic in real life.) Does anyone know of any plausable scenarios how someone might have been transferred out of the medic field? My gut feeling tells me it didn't happen very often, given the value of medics. At the moment, I'm tempted to transfer him out via a stint in a penal battalion and come up with a good story of how he was kicked out for pilfering off the wounded.

[DAS MEDIC]

Here's a weird one... I'm working on a Soldbuch for a guy in my unit who wants to have a history as a Sani, but wants to come out as an infantryman. (He used to be an army medic in real life.) Does anyone know of any plausable scenarios how someone might have been transferred out of the medic field? My gut feeling tells me it didn't happen very often, given the value of medics. At the moment, I'm tempted to transfer him out via a stint in a penal battalion and come up with a good story of how he was kicked out for pilfering off the wounded.

i will have a word with micky(my wife) (she is a whizz with the soldbuch and german language )
i will see about transferring of role within the armed service
would the guy wanting to be in the same division\unit or armed force, i.e from luftwaffe-heer
i'll see what i can do

[Feldjager]

Put him in a Kreigslazarette unit for a division which was disbanded early war and then he could have been posted. If he was an orderly rather than a full medic, it would be plausible for him to be put in an infantry unit as,as you have suggested, a trained medic would have been redeployed as a medic.

The transfer would be straight forwards - cross out the 'previous' unit in his soldbuch and insert the new one, likewise reissue his kit etc.

[leicanthrope]

Here's a weird one... I'm working on a Soldbuch for a guy in my unit who wants to have a history as a Sani, but wants to come out as an infantryman. (He used to be an army medic in real life.) Does anyone know of any plausable scenarios how someone might have been transferred out of the medic field? My gut feeling tells me it didn't happen very often, given the value of medics. At the moment, I'm tempted to transfer him out via a stint in a penal battalion and come up with a good story of how he was kicked out for pilfering off the wounded.

i will have a word with micky(my wife) (she is a whizz with the soldbuch and german language )
i will see about transferring of role within the armed service
would the guy wanting to be in the same division\unit or armed force, i.e from luftwaffe-heer
i'll see what i can do

I've really got to keep it within the Heer, since I've got his blank Heer soldbuch to work with. We can go wherever we want in terms of units though.

[DAS MEDIC]

cheers dave

as dave says, disbanded and re deployed.
the problem with trained medics was that they stayed medics as they didnt really get choice to re train, once a qualified trade it stuck, in the field you were very very necessary and that you went when and wherever
the idea of serving"time" probably wasnt an option, a medic robbing bodies...well i think would have been seen rather poorly in the field.
maybe a hilfs krankentrager beginning...
we'll look into it tho

[leicanthrope]

While we're on the subject, do any of you have an example of the equipment issue pages for medical personnel? I've found photos of two original Sani soldbuchs, but neither show those pages.

[DAS MEDIC]

While we're on the subject, do any of you have an example of the equipment issue pages for medical personnel? I've found photos of two original Sani soldbuchs, but neither show those pages.

never seen one (doesnt mean they dont exist) whenever i find a sani soldbuch its never complete anyway,
hens teeth , rocking horse sh... springs to mind
if anyone HAS or HAS got one please post it here..

see what we can do
good question

dave you are good on paper-printed matter...what do you think

[Feldjager]

I would say that the medic pouches and armband were recorded on page 8 of the soldbuch as non-standard issue items, if they were personal issue (which I image they would be).

And it just so happens...

This guy had 2 soldbücher top one is the original one, bottom is the continuation.

[leicanthrope]

Pretty much the standard equipment issue otherwise? German medics on the eastern front carried pistols, but no other weaponry, right?

[Feldjager]

I don't know if they were issued a sidearm (bayonet) for dress and parade purposes.

Kit issue is, I think, pretty much the same as an infantryman.

[Gott Mit Uns]

Seitengewehr (bayonet) was standard issue to everyone including medics.
I dont think the contents of the sani pouches would be listed in the soldbuch, as the pouches came issued from unit stores with the contents in them. Whilst the pouches themselves were issued with a printed label denoting the contents, therefore the simple addition of pouch left and right would cover the ownership in the soldbuch. It would then be down to the soldiers and unit NCO's to make sure that their medical troops retained the correct contents.

Loss or theft could lead to charges, but its evident with war shortages, not every pouch was issued with the entire contents, and that through use, resupply of specified contents could not always take place.

Tom.

[leicanthrope]

Simple space requirements would dictate that the contents of the pouches wouldn't be listed. Couldn't fit that many items onto the page. Besides, they don't list other "consumable" items like bullets, grenades, and lunch.

[Feldjager]

Simple space requirements would dictate that the contents of the pouches wouldn't be listed. Couldn't fit that many items onto the page. Besides, they don't list other "consumable" items like bullets, grenades, and lunch.

Consumables and unit equipment were not entered into a soldbuch - the latter were recorded in a Gerätebuch and the former on inventory lists (primarily for ammunition, but I've seen them used for other things such as rations).

[DAS MEDIC]

Simple space requirements would dictate that the contents of the pouches wouldn't be listed. Couldn't fit that many items onto the page. Besides, they don't list other "consumable" items like bullets, grenades, and lunch.

Consumables and unit equipment were not entered into a soldbuch - the latter were recorded in a Gerätebuch and the former on inventory lists (primarily for ammunition, but I've seen them used for other things such as rations).

i am wondering if there is any paperwork out there regarding the re supply of medics, obviously pay, rations etc have but were general first aid dressing and its ancillary equipment just sent out to the front, or, when returning , did the sanis go to re supply,probably? or not.logic thinks that each medic must have to be able to obtain some equipment..hence signing for it or receiving a chit of sorts..

worth a dig

[Feldjager]

I don't know if there was anything specific for medics - there were equipment requisition forms and receipts, however these were kept at Kompanie level and higher.