At the front 44 dot..

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At the front 44 dot..

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http://www.atthefront.com/g_uni_44dot.html

This looks great, ive worn their wool tunics (the ones they made in the US) since I started, I get asked if they are origional (now the wooll is nicely worn).

Looks like this dot will be just as well researched.
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Looks great, and better priced than the SMW offer.
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Does it not look a bit short on sploges ?

Seams to be pretty blank apart from the peas. the Origional shown next to it, has many more sploges.
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Yeah they have an original next to it which is EXACTLY the same as the latest SMW, nuff said !!!
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SMW? Sorry I dont know what that is?
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Howdo mate

SMW= SM Wholesale manufacturers of high quality repro german camo.

SOF sell there dot 44, aswell as 1944 Militaria and Lomax Militaria.

I have a suit of it and it is exact to the originale tunic atf copied from, just the one they've done imho isnt good.

I've compared mine next to a mint original dot 44 tunic and its bob on.

I personally think ATF have filled a none existant gap in the market

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In my opinion, Zeugmeisterei makes the best and most authentic peas camo reproductions which you can get :D .
Look here: http://www.zeugmeisterei.com/cms/en/ind ... pageid=272
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Schuetze Arsch wrote:In my opinion, Zeugmeisterei makes the best and most authentic peas camo reproductions which you can get :D .
Look here: http://www.zeugmeisterei.com/cms/en/ind ... pageid=272
Yes I will go with that Our dear Zeug has some good cammo uniforms
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Seems to be lacking large sploges in the light brown but at the price the material looks good and once dirty then washed a few times (listen to me once dirty I ask you! :lol: ) it'll probbable look quite good.
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Here are two pictures from my Zeugmeisterei Panzer-jacket, which I bought some weeks ago :D .
The 5 colors are very balanced, not too dark and not too bright, and not in this pink schade how you can see in many other reproductions.
I had washed the jacket in the washing machine and the colors keep in the fabric, no white lines on the surface of the jacket !
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The HBT material is fantastic! The backside of the HBT have a off-white colour and not the brown base-color. The Hbt consists of a linen/ cotton blend. Probaqbly the linen fibers outweighs because the HBT is very thick and rough. On the inside are many small knots and mis-weaving lines to see, how this is otherwise only on original HBT to see. The HBT has a 6 mm weave pattern like the original HBT was.
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I never had a better reproduction, can only recommend it ! :D
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Schuetze Arsch wrote
The 5 colors are very balanced, not too dark and not too bright, and not in this pink schade how you can see in many other reproductions.
The pinker shade I think is the Dot 43 pattern I will try and look out a referance to this .Zugs Dot 44 hits the mark and I may even order a set
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Many reenactors chose items based on preconcived ideas about how things are supposed to be and look like.

The brown base colour is a very commonfeature on originals. The pink shades are very common. As the pinting technique were very new at that time, the production quality was not very consistent, and many, many variations exist. Different shades of the dots, different size of the print, etc. Base fabric varying a lot.

Having handled ZM, SMW, Janke, several chinese, Sturm and a few originals, plus having "studied" (looked at loads of photos of) many, many more originals. I prefer SMWs offer. ZM comes in as a close second. I hope that i will get the chance to also see the new ATF dot close up, but I doubt hat I will purchase a set from them.



But I don't think this tread was about which reproduction that was the best. it would also be a lot more fair to compare the repro to originals, instead of the typical comparison of reproduction to other reproductions :)
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SMW does several prints, one of them is the faded one.

ZMs got a problem and thats the colour consistency. It simply stays too strong for too long. I guess it's the modern printing method they use.

Originals were worn all day, every day, for a looong period. Add this up with low quality materials, and you get garmens that look very, very worn after not very long.
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