(Heer) Helmet colour scheme and timeline

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Today I went to local paint shop AM panels and paints . Asked them to make one aerosol RAL: 6006 Field grey matt Asked me twice pulling his face :( field grey ? after couple of minutes which he spent in his magic room :) and I said yes is something between dark green and black , and he says o.k. After 20 min. he came out and passed me bomb with sticker saying RAL: 6006 olive green :shock: :? :? So I'm pretty confused and now lads I need your opinions is this one correct or not ??? Thanks
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Most paint dealers can't pull off the matte texture, but 6006 is correct. It's green with a bit of a greyish undertone in it. But definitely green.
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Thank you for your help ,now I'm going to test it :wink:
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That's what I found Today I think we are all wrong :?: :?: :)


Mit der Verfügung vom 27.1.1940 wurde der Helm mattfeldgrau angestrichen. Mit der neun Verfügung vom 1.3.1940 wurde der Helm mattschiefgrau angestrichen :!: :!: :!:
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That's the normal iron oxide-mixed paint. The early 1940 pattern field grey helmets were smooth.
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What about the use of RAL 7018 Scheifergrau?
Excerpts from the Army report 1940, No. 428
For camouflage reasons the steel helmets of the army receive a slate grey-matt , with a rough texture painting on the outside…
The black - white - red national-shield is not longer in use
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Perhaps someone with better German than I could translate the whole?
Image pinched from HistoryPaint
http://www.ebay.de/itm/RAL7018-SCHIEFER ... 1c39e52856
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On the topic of helmet colours: does anyone know the RAL codes for the WW1 paint schemes used on the M16's? I have been struggling to find a definitive answer on the matter, with paints ranging from field grey to light grey to dark grey / verging on black. Would a slate grey (RAL 7015) be acceptable?

(I know this forum is more for WW2 enthusiasts, so I apologize in advance if this is some major faux pas)
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askhati wrote:On the topic of helmet colours: does anyone know the RAL codes for the WW1 paint schemes used on the M16's? I have been struggling to find a definitive answer on the matter, with paints ranging from field grey to light grey to dark grey / verging on black. Would a slate grey (RAL 7015) be acceptable?

(I know this forum is more for WW2 enthusiasts, so I apologize in advance if this is some major faux pas)
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I went with RAL 7009 - though the first batch seems to be VERY glossy - going back this week to get another version made up using the RAL colour code as a base, but they said they'll mix it up with a different base formula that is matte-based...

I've got to try to work out the colour for the Finnish greens too - someone I read said AppleGreen or MossGreen?
(Need to trawl through the notes again as the PC has been crashing more than a Malaysian Airliner lately & I've lost loads of browsing history...)
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Thanks, I must have missed that part... *face-palm*

However, the text seems to indicate that the 1930's re-issue of the M16/18 was painted in RAL 7009 - whereas I am more interested in the colour they would have been at time of issue in 1916-18? Was that also 7009?
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