Pulver Kurt and his amazing stash of goodies!

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Re: Pulver Kurt and his amazing stash of goodies!

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We are now off topic for Pulver Kurt and I suggest if you wish to continue either start a new thread or use the PM function.
I agree with Paul, as far as I am aware this is the only thread on this topic in the English language and I would not like to see it closed
just because it went OT. Those of you who know something about weapons, may like to go to this link and check out the videoclip......

http://www.rhein-zeitung.de/regionales_ ... 95277.html

On the Hoover forum it has gone very quiet, I speculate it is because all of this keeps bringing up the name BAUMHOLDER,
it is where Hoovers cronies always play and where Kurt´s group played Wehrmacht. They are worried that they may
lose their biggest playground. I can imagine that the US Forces at Baumholder are following the news and may now
take a dim view of the hobby, at least regards to future events at their base?

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On the Hoover forum it has gone very quiet, I speculate it is because all of this keeps bringing up the name BAUMHOLDER,
it is where Hoovers cronies always play and where Kurt´s group played Wehrmacht. They are worried that they may
lose their biggest playground.
Nuts. Baumholder is no problem, because we did met the Kurt and familiy there only once in 2006 when you, Bill, was there, too.

There is simply nothing to add to the case yet, that´s why there are no postings. Baumholder is not our biggest playground and it never was.

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Hoover wrote:
On the Hoover forum it has gone very quiet, I speculate it is because all of this keeps bringing up the name BAUMHOLDER,
it is where Hoovers cronies always play and where Kurt´s group played Wehrmacht. They are worried that they may
lose their biggest playground.
Nuts. Baumholder is no problem, because we did met the Kurt and familiy there only once in 2006 when you, Bill, was there, too.

There is simply nothing to add to the case yet, that´s why there are no postings. Baumholder is not our biggest playground and it never was.
Well I got info from my friends over there that they are all holding their breath in case their photos are also on file and someone comes to visit them with a metal detector........ Seen the video on one of the Zeitung websites - He has UK Pyrotechnics in there - Loads of what appear to be replicas and possible deacts.... plus some legitimately held sport and hunting weapons. I can imagine some of the little hunny bunnies getting raided for waffen u. sprengstoff and getting carted off for the covert Waffen SS kit in their closets......... Also the lads in Kurt's unit who did Baumholder confirm that the froschebanden did indeed use Baumholder as their main playground...... In fact there are videos and some pics (which will no doubt be disappearing in the next few seconds) on forums etc. showing them playing - along with some Dutch Kollegen auch.

I love the way "freund" Hoover twists one way then that...... Don't ever rely on him in court....... :lol:

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Nuts. Baumholder is no problem, because we did met the Kurt and familiy there only once in 2006 when you, Bill, was there, too.

There is simply nothing to add to the case yet, that´s why there are no postings. Baumholder is not our biggest playground and it never was.
Come now Hoover, you have attended Baumholder more than once :wink: Outside of Holland and Belgium, what big events do the German scene have?

As you mentioned 2006, let us stay with that year for a moment. That was the year that Kurt was chosen to be the person to check to see if all
our weapons met the German legal requirements. We all lined up and Kurt sat at a wooden table and we all had to show him our weapons
so that he could check our names on a list. Someone with a very trusted position. Why not mention about a year ago, was that not the time at
Baumholder that it was decided that Kurt would take command of all Wehrmacht groups attending due to the fact that he had the highest
rank during the event, again another trusted position. ( dont take my word for it, phone a few of your friends who attended).

The point that I am trying to make is that some of your associates in command positions made very bad judgements, so my reasoning is
that perhaps they have made other wrong judgements against other people in the past too?

Now back to "Pulver Kurt"

Consider the following, some in Germany have been writing that he is really a nice fellow, friendly and would never harm anyone.
However, a main point has been missed by almost everyone. The barn used for the storage had a wooden door and a padlock, that
anyone could have broken into with a boltcropper with seconds. Any terrorist cell or robber types could have observed or heard
about what was stored at any time.....gone there and equipt themselves with some useful military hardware :shock:

Cheers, Bill.
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Erm................. proof - Baumholder

Isn't that Matze right at the beginning?
ON YOUTUBE NO LESS.....

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Oh dear oh dear oh dear......... :roll:

My continued interest in this incident has led me to watch yet another video today...... Here

http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/rp/-/id=1 ... 10/vfhc51/

Starts with the words "Granaten, M-G Patronen........" I think we can ALL translate that...... the number of "patronen" is astounding - 120,000!!!!! And then - it shows THREE MP40s a G3 (why he wanted that I don't know) and the lovely Schusswaffenexpert Wolfgang Michel demonstrates a barrel change on an MG42 with spare barrels laid inbetween that and a 34...... While Brigitte says "legal and illegal weapons...."

You know - considering most of that ammunition is in military crates - which carry serialised LOT numbers - I saw some German and AMERICAN - I'd say it's traceable - And if it transpires that some of it came from Baumholder then it's no wonder Hoover and all the "up their own arse" gang have gone quieter than the North Pole at midnight! Now I'm not 100% certain so I will stand to be corrected on this but I believe Pulver Kurt is a former military man and if he has any connections still I bet they are shitting bricks also right now.

So the trusted alte haase of Baumholder has dropped them all in it......... inadvertently of course - I wonder who's dabs they are lifting from those toys........ :lol:

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Oh Mann.

We are not quiet and nobody of us is afraid of any pics or anything else. That is what you are hoping for. But you will have no luck.

I attended to Baumholder in 2006, 2007 and 2009 (the rainy event). That´s it. And I don´t regret it, and if it wouldn´t be 600km away I would attend again. The past organizer Jerry was a very good man, and the succesor Joe is it, too. I feel very sorry that they could get into trouble because of one "collector". And I am afraid that there won´t be any more events in BH due to that trouble.

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I'm not hoping for anything - I do like how yet again you say in one post - Baumholder wasn't your playground and then just above you say you attended 3 times travelling 1200 km each time to do so........ I think we could coin "The Hoover Paradox" as a psychological condition when a person compulsively contradicts themselves to try to win an argument.....

Yeah - The Hoover Paradox - it has a ring to it. :lol:

Nice of you to name drop the organisers - Wouldn't be a ploy to deflect attention away from you and your mates would it? :wink:

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Oh Mann.

BH was not my playground. Or, 15-20 places all over Europe are my playgrounds. Is my playground every place where I am reenacting?

That is a really stupid of a really stupid man. Sorry, but your statements are a joke.

The Hoffmann paradox is far more interesting I think.

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Hoover wrote:Oh Mann.

BH was not my playground. Or, 15-20 places all over Europe are my playgrounds. Is my playground every place where I am reenacting?

That is a really stupid of a really stupid man. Sorry, but your statements are a joke.

The Hoffmann paradox is far more interesting I think.
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Answer - YES - Everywhere you re-enact IS your playground - Simply by definition!

As for stupid - I'm not the one who keeps coming back to answer the posts.......... Who's stupid now? :mrgreen:

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The ''We'' system failed in Germany...
So,who is stupid here.

I bet Hoover didn't checked Pulver's home in that time.....
or with one eye shut. :lol:

The issue isn't anti w.ss reenactment anymore it's more
"WE decide" when to do it...In Holland we have a society,''they'' are not
against w.ss reenactment.....''they'' want to do it themself..and afcourse they
are the only ones to do it right.

The only postive thing is that Hoover as the guts to defend what he thinks is right.
In Holland we have more then 1 Hoover.But they are hiding in their foxholes afraid that
they lose their face in a normal discussion.
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The issue isn't anti w.ss reenactment anymore it's more
The next proof for not understanding.
It is not "No SS". It is and was ever:

"We have to be careful here, currently we still have problems with Wehrmacht. So we have to establish the Wehrmacht thing to a solid base, and then we can go steps further."

That is it, that´s what I ever said. I never said: "No, never". A small but important difference.
Answer - YES - Everywhere you re-enact IS your playground - Simply by definition!
Hoffmännchen:
Okay, if you say: "You lost one of your playgrounds" I would agree. In discussions with you and your bunch I have to be very accurate.

As for stupid - I'm not the one who keeps coming back to answer the posts.......... Who's stupid now? :mrgreen:
Answer - YES - Everywhere you re-enact IS your playground - Simply by definition!
As for stupid - I'm not the one who keeps coming back to answer the posts.......... Who's stupid now? :mrgreen:
Sorry, but why should I be quiet if there is bullshit written about BH and we wold be afraid? No. That is what you would like to hear.

I will wirte again if the stupidity comes again...oh, you are online? Hi again. :lol:

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I allready knowe that you are not realy against w.ss reenactment...
What frustrates me is that YOUR ''WE" group will decide howe and when to do so...
The people here have an open mind about the subject ....your approax has nothing to do
with that...you make your own rules.
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Just got online and the paranoid Hoover is incorrect again...... :lol:

Your argument is weak and insipid Frau Hoover...... :roll: And again it changes. You were originally against Waffen-SS re-enactment - you changed your position to one of "on the fence" when you thought there may be a chance it could be so...... true politics. Now you are not against it (so you say) but do not support it....... That's bad - shows a lack of backbone - Mind you - I've already worked out that it's a broom handle up your arse keeping you so rigid :mrgreen:

Mooyman speaks sense - Holland has the LPLG I think it is. They have a society which they all contribute to. Because they got TOGETHER and worked TOGETHER to belong to it. I don't think it controls them...... it does regulate them (very big difference) and I believe also it is done by consent.

In the UK we have several societies or bodies that people can belong to - some of them long established, others not so. But all known and with some means of speaking to the authorities.

What you lot have done in Germany is to divide your scene - and I remember why and who and how. That division had to be overcome before you can progress but from where I sit, your side won't heal it. So you wrecked your hobby. And it wasn't an SS Mann who did it, It was a WH man - a Rentner even!!!! Someone you trusted and in some cases looked up to. All the good times playing with those toys eh? Wasn't it fun, didn't it feel naughty? But now he's on his own (for now) and the damage is done.

Ah well...... Hoover the spokesman will no doubt prepare his latest "answer" when really there is no need for one. It's plain to see - the great group of 9 didn't an doesn't exist and it didn't prevent this....... All the time people were running round informing on others and trying to scare people away or into silence - under their noses the disaster was waiting to happen.

As for "my bunch" - What bunch? unless you mean the 650+ members of AFRA? The rapidly growing association that is being built over here. The model you could put to good use any time you thought it useful...... but then - who'd run it? I only here from you these days and I don't think you're capable. I don't have a bunch. It's ME talking to you. Me who is the burr under your saddle. I only talk to my German friends these days about kinder kirche und kuche........... They get on with what they are doing and don't enter into your silly parlour games - Strange - what's the German phrase? Nacht und Nebel I think...... you indulge in it too much. Try doing something else in your spare time Hoover. Fishing's good - sometimes you can land a big one that just keeps struggling and struggling. :lol:

Bis Spaeter Liebling......

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