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I have founded the parka set quite warm during the winters, even on -30 celcius. It's great if you are stationary, but when you move, ah, it makes you sweat like a pig (attleast they did to me) I have the sturm jacket and chinese trousers.

Earlier this year I managed the winter training in t-shirt, sweater, tunic, great coat compination and I survived fine, even if there were -30 celcius also. Maybe I'm warm blooded :D

Btw. does anyone have any pics of the real "lighter" parkas with only a small padding, or pics of the non-reversible ones with silk/cotton lining? Does anyone make these on stock?
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I've had my Panther-Store down to -20 C, while being outside and stationary. I wouldn't say I was overly warm, but I wasn't cold. Once you start moving however, it becomes clear they are very good insulators and you start to heat up like mad. I last all of half an hour in the feild with them on if im crawling/moving around.

I find layering a better, and probably more authentic way of keeping warm. Undershirt, sweater, feldbluse, and greatcoat if you have it, and a smock.
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GraemeMac wrote:I find layering a better, and probably more authentic way of keeping warm. Undershirt, sweater, feldbluse, and greatcoat if you have it, and a smock.
Yes, i use: Undershirt, shirt, sweater, feldbluse and parka, at the coldest moments.
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feldman wrote:
GraemeMac wrote:I find layering a better, and probably more authentic way of keeping warm. Undershirt, sweater, feldbluse, and greatcoat if you have it, and a smock.
Yes, i use: Undershirt, shirt, sweater, feldbluse and parka, at the coldest moments.

I agree with both of you. I usually go out in the field with service shirt, sweater and tunic, but since i still am cold with that combination in the winter months i decided to get a parka. I do have a great coat but I rather wear it just for walking out events anymore.

My main concern was that the parkas from sm wholesale are to thin in the wool an the outer shell is as thin as a t shirt. can any one verify if this is correct? its been a while since I've handled a original.

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http://atthefront.com/historical_refere ... forms.html

The above is worth a read with regards to quality.
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The SMW repros are about as close to original as you will get.
I have 3 parkas one SMW, one Hero Collection and one Chinese. When it gets cold I opt for the SMW.
The print is way better.
Don't forget to wear the padded trousers. If it is cold enough to issue parkas they issued the trousers too.
The only pics of parka only I remember are of Brits in captured jackets.

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Thanks for all the info, I am no expert on this subject so any information on parkas is greatly appreciated. I am thinking about picking up the book "Winter Uniforms of the German Army and Luftwaffe" to read up more on parkas.

I always thought the shell material would be similar material to a zeltbahn or smock?

Also I agree with wearing the winter trousers with the parka, as i have noticed usually officer and panzer crews are the only ones seen wearing the parka by itself.

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Otto41 wrote: I always thought the shell material would be similar material to a zeltbahn or smock?
But it isn't. Damn those fiendish Boche.

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Just to take part in the how it feels discussion...

In winter, when outside, you are not even supposed to feel warm like in the summer. The perfect temperature is when you feel slight chills going through your body all the time. This means that when you move, you don't sweat too much and freeze later. Feet & hands have to be warm though.

I've found parkas somewhat too warm. I have both Sturm and chinese made repros and both were too warm even in -30 to -35 degrees... perfect for just standing outside when you don't have to do anything.
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yes, you are right Peter Bauer - the outside layers should be normal thin cotton / rayon whatever.. most earlier Chinese versions where way to thick. The parka/trousers is not suppose to "take care" of the cold for you, just add another layer for protection. Layering is the key word. Just add / remove a layer underneath so you wont get to cold / hot.

There was also manufactured a special extra layer for even more protection. I would like to get my hands on such a set, or perhaps make my own copy. Dont think anyone makes a repro of that. There is a debate about this one, so i wont say to much even though i have seen many originals on pictures.
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I have a non matching set consisting of splinter parka from some old Czech manufacturer which are no longer in buissness and field-grey pants from PANTHER-STORE.
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I tried to get a copy of the book "Winter Uniforms of the German Army and Luftwaffe" this week, as a Christmas gift to myself, but the book store said is was out of stock :( So, if you are reading this Santa - PM me, and ill give you map directions..

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feldman wrote:
parka-versions.jpg
yes, you are right Peter Bauer - the outside layers should be normal thin cotton / rayon whatever.. most earlier Chinese versions where way to thick. The parka/trousers is not suppose to "take care" of the cold for you, just add another layer for protection. Layering is the key word. Just add / remove a layer underneath so you wont get to cold / hot.

There was also manufactured a special extra layer for even more protection. I would like to get my hands on such a set, or perhaps make my own copy. Dont think anyone makes a repro of that. There is a debate about this one, so i wont say to much even though i have seen many originals on pictures.
extra-layer.jpg
I have a non matching set consisting of splinter parka from some old Czech manufacturer which are no longer in buissness and field-grey pants from PANTHER-STORE.
splinter-parka.jpg
I tried to get a copy of the book "Winter Uniforms of the German Army and Luftwaffe" this week, as a Christmas gift to myself, but the book store said is was out of stock :( So, if you are reading this Santa - PM me, and ill give you map directions..

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Yes i have seen several of these for sale, Here is the lower part of the set, not a bad price either...
http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Heer/photos/H068861.html

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Yeah, i was looking for where i had seen them recently, it was at that page, thanks !

Good price..
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No problem they used to have the top part too but it sold. Let me know if you ever decide having one reproduced and how it goes.

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With a nod of thanks to Lentz, some good pics of parkas here
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And not always worn with the padded trousers

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