Was there ever an early or mid early model of the SS camouflage smock
without any pockets or openings. I have spotted a repro item from germany
missing that. Is this a poor fake or accurate to an origin?
Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
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Re: Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
As far as I'm concerned there are only 3 "Styling" variations of the Waffen-SS camo smock.
The earliest pattern to be commonly issued, often referred to as the M-38 was designed to be worn 'over' the combat equipment and had two vertical slits at the front for access, it also had an elasticized neck, a small square placket at the bottom of the neck closure was used to reinforce the base, and was characteristic of the M-38 smock.
A gradual shift away from the tautness of the elastic used in the neck after 1939 resulted in the production of smocks without elasticized necks by the end of 1940 - the M-40 pattern.
In 1942, modifications to the M-40 pattern saw pockets added to the front, replacing the vents, and loops for foliage attached to the shoulder area - the M-42
Aside from the many camo variations and the use of HBT during 1943, due to a shortage in cotton duck material, I have never seen any evidence of any other pattern.
The earliest pattern to be commonly issued, often referred to as the M-38 was designed to be worn 'over' the combat equipment and had two vertical slits at the front for access, it also had an elasticized neck, a small square placket at the bottom of the neck closure was used to reinforce the base, and was characteristic of the M-38 smock.
A gradual shift away from the tautness of the elastic used in the neck after 1939 resulted in the production of smocks without elasticized necks by the end of 1940 - the M-40 pattern.
In 1942, modifications to the M-40 pattern saw pockets added to the front, replacing the vents, and loops for foliage attached to the shoulder area - the M-42
Aside from the many camo variations and the use of HBT during 1943, due to a shortage in cotton duck material, I have never seen any evidence of any other pattern.
Re: Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
This example looks to be a type 2 smock and there are no known examples of type 2 in palm pattern
also all the books say the type 1 had the slits in the body originally to access the ammo pouches
and type 2 early had straight skirt pockets and latter sloped skirt pockets
shame as its a nice print but just wrong![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
also all the books say the type 1 had the slits in the body originally to access the ammo pouches
and type 2 early had straight skirt pockets and latter sloped skirt pockets
shame as its a nice print but just wrong
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Re: Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
Thank's all for good inputs.
I agree about the good print and it looks as this
"schlupfjacke" could be a home "field" made bastard.![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
I agree about the good print and it looks as this
"schlupfjacke" could be a home "field" made bastard.
![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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Re: Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
if you look carefully on the first picture you can see that this is infact the type 1 palm smock and the slits are on the far left and right of the smock
they are hard to make out at first but they are there
i have on of these for sale if you want one.
p.m me like new
zac
they are hard to make out at first but they are there
i have on of these for sale if you want one.
p.m me like new
zac
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Re: Tarnjacke / Camo smock - pockets
If you look hard you could see that the jacket is mounted on two diffrent uniform jackets
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