watertight gas can?

[erikbozwo2]

Why should masks with a D be specificly designed for KM? Name a type of unit in need of watertight gasmask canisters in the KM. Divers? Oh wait.

Sorry, but the D is just a '42 on difference in manufacture.

[GraemeMac]

Dicht means tight, closed, sealed.....if we're assuming D means Dicht.....

My understanding is that open filters dont like water over long periods of time(would you like to see a picture of my filter, swolen and ruptured due to moisture?). Id suggest the 'D' or sealed units were introduced to limit/prevent the ingress of atmospheric moisture into the cans.

This is something that'd be applicable across all branches, and not just KM/KA. I'd say they are general issue, and not KM. My D's are both in their original feldgrau.

[Pyotr]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate your time and thoughts. I think there are too many "D" marked cans out there to have been produced for the KM and coastal units only. I suspect that they are for all service units. But then, when the reenactment community agrees 100% it will probably be a miracle!

Any one making the rubber seal?

Patrick

[peiper1944]

It's plausible for it stand for 'Luft-Dicht', to protect against dust. As the Wehrmacht in dusty areas (one might say tropical) were issued a dust cover. See pic.

As for "dust cover" Konzert-Meister, these were
meant to be removed, another dealer had three
of these filters for sale still in the boxes with
their dust bags still attatched, after fitting a new
filter to your mask these bags were removed,
they were to protect the filters whilst in storage
not as a "to be worn item"

[erikbozwo2]

You can find the ring in postwar cans. Repro's I've never seen but I would not be surprised if Vit Zemanek makes them.

Peiper, the dust cover is just as Nathan says it is. Not meant to be removed. I've seen original boxes without them too. next to that these filters came with 2 lids, one on the top and one on the bottom to thoroughly seal them. So why would you add another thing to throw away, Peiper?

[peiper1944]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate your time and thoughts. I think there are too many "D" marked cans out there to have been produced for the KM and coastal units only. I suspect that they are for all service units. But then, when the reenactment community agrees 100% it will probably be a miracle!

Any one making the rubber seal?

Patrick

You haven't read my comments properly,
I didn't say they were for the KM only I said
they were originally intended for that purpose
then later mid War onwards the rubber seals
were removed then the tins were issued to ALL
Units en-masse

[GraemeMac]

They are for Kriegsmarine/Coastal Artillery troops

Peiper

You very clearly state the are for KM/KA troops.....

[erikbozwo2]

And you only stated the rubber rings after I showed a original..

[peiper1944]

And you only stated the rubber rings after I showed a original..

Not at all Erik, I have four gasmasks and tins
myself as I said one of them have a seal, excuse
the writing as iam at work and have to write
comments very fast as iam on my mobile,
but as I say we have had a friendly discussion
I can only quote information at my disposal
as you can, obviously no body is quite sure,
I did ask where you had your information from
but you seem to missed that question, basically
you have as much proof as myself so no one is
wrong, untill someone comes out with some
positive proof no one will know for certain,
in this case we will agree to disagree lol
Regards Peiper

[erikbozwo2]

The D cans are general issue to every army branch, from the start in '42 just like the enameled cans are postwar issue.

The KM masks are different and have a microphone attachment.

[Konzert-Meister]

''You haven't read my comments properly,
I didn't say they were for the KM only I said
they were originally intended for that purpose
then later mid War onwards the rubber seals
were removed then the tins were issued to ALL
Units en-masse''


So my 1945 dated one was produced for the Kriegsmarine in 1945, with the rubber seal? Then in the following days/weeks removed, so the rubber could be recycled?

Imho the rubber isn't present in some due to the shortage of rubber and being deemed a pointless feature and waste of rubber by that stage of the war.

[peiper1944]

The KM masks are different and have a microphone attachment.

Heh heh ;-D...there we are again lol,
I disagree there as well but im not going
to get dragged into another debate, as far
as I was aware the masks with the socket
for a microphone were issued to signallers
and Panzer crews

[peiper1944]

''You haven't read my comments properly,
I didn't say they were for the KM only I said
they were originally intended for that purpose
then later mid War onwards the rubber seals
were removed then the tins were issued to ALL
Units en-masse''


So my 1945 dated one was produced for the Kriegsmarine in 1945, with the rubber seal? Then in the following days/weeks removed, so the rubber could be recycled?

Imho the rubber isn't present in some due to the shortage of rubber and being deemed a pointless feature and waste of rubber by that stage of the war.

Just because something is stamped 1945
doesn't necessarily mean it was made in 45,
your cannister could've been made 1943
and laid unissued in a storage depot for
two years before being stamped and
finally issued, ive seen no end of early
War equipment with late War dates,
I have an MG-34 stamped 1944, so
does that mean the stamp is wrong
then lol

[Konzert-Meister]

No your MG34 was made in 1944, not 1943 then stamped in 1944 when it was issued...

The canister is stamped in the metal, not ink. Not like a re-issued piece of equipment. It was done in the factory at the time of production in 1945.

[GraemeMac]

BRNO made 34s throughout the war.....