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Jon Das Reich · Post by **Jon Das Reich** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:17 pm

Why do German reenactors have a fixation with vehicles when horses and pushbikes were a common mode of transport

Gott Mit Uns · Post by **Gott Mit Uns** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:21 pm

Cos Jon, horses cost the same to get to an event and they are more dangerous unfortunately. One thing I looked into was getting a horse drawn German ambulance to events, only with the insurance etc it costs over £500 for a weekend, and the horses have to be kept away from loud noises and fed.

916 do a good display with pushbikes though.

Jon Das Reich · Post by **Jon Das Reich** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:27 pm

Tom

i was talking to some napoleonic reenactors at a show awhile ago regarding horses and they hire specially trained horses that are used to load noises etc. The reenactors had to attend a training course to use the horses but it worked out cheaper than buying a horse the Gebs use a mule and also the cossack group use horses also.

But overall when you look at the cost of a horse and vehicle the horse will still be cheaper thou mate.

Watch this space regarding pushbikes the 916 wont be the only unit using pushbikes in large numbers

jimmyvonk · Post by **jimmyvonk** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:30 pm

Maus Commander wrote: I'll look into the Horch 1a, perhaps you could suggest on how to make it road safe?

Getting a converted vehicle registerd all depends on the age of the chassis it's built on... and how much of the original you use.

If you just change the body on a vehicle with a chassis, (like a landrover) and keep the same engine, drive train etc (and bulkhead if you can) you should have no problem getting it registered - changing a LWB Landy to a Horch I can see no problems... except your gonna have to have everything needed for it's original age of registration.... so unlike a real wartime vehicle you will need indicators, seat belts, windscreen washers, etc etc...

Now, if you bult it on something like a war time dodge....

OR just buy an original German pre 1945 motorcycle and kiss good buy to credit cards and get into a whole world of pain - and it's a real "nazi" vehicle - mine has chicken stamps all over it's pass-book!!!

Hoffman Grink · Post by **Hoffman Grink** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:56 pm

Jon Das Reich wrote:Why do German reenactors have a fixation with vehicles when horses and pushbikes were a common mode of transport

Cos you don't have to clean shit up behind a Blitz or an OT810....

The German Army were the first motorised Army..... Vehicles do it Jon. Hosses pull ploughs!

Seriously - Modern H&S dictates that you have to have run off areas when using horses. stabling, exercise paddocks, blah blah blah...
With a motor you just park it up and kick it into life when you need it......
Push irons fine - We'd see a lot more fitter, thinner re-enactors though.....

Maus Commander · Post by **Maus Commander** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:30 pm

Jon Das Reich wrote:Why do German reenactors have a fixation with vehicles when horses and pushbikes were a common mode of transport

Because German vehicles became hilariously overengineered as the war progressed?

Gott Mit Uns · Post by **Gott Mit Uns** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:59 am

Fwbl Dollman wrote:
Jon Das Reich wrote:Why do German reenactors have a fixation with vehicles when horses and pushbikes were a common mode of transport
Cos you don't have to clean shit up behind a Blitz or an OT810....

The German Army were the first motorised Army..... Vehicles do it Jon. Hosses pull ploughs!
Seriously - Modern H&S dictates that you have to have run off areas when using horses. stabling, exercise paddocks, blah blah blah...
With a motor you just park it up and kick it into life when you need it......
Push irons fine - We'd see a lot more fitter, thinner re-enactors though.....

Still, after speaking with "Carthos" on t'other forum about it, it'd be nice if at one event we had a horse drawn cart

LAH650 · Post by **LAH650** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:17 pm

Now if you are going to make a Horch 108....

Ok it's only a model can't find a real one at work

Now that would be nice.... with a working Flak 38

See for other Horch options/cars etc...

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/horch.htm

Gott Mit Uns · Post by **Gott Mit Uns** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:04 pm

Kurt Volkmar wrote:
Jon Das Reich wrote:Why do German reenactors have a fixation with vehicles when horses and pushbikes were a common mode of transport
You ever kept a horse Can't leave them for six months over winter locked in a garage

But u dont have to, you hire it and an operator Simon. Hence why the costs are £500 for 2 days mate.

Hoffman Grink · Post by **Hoffman Grink** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:09 pm

Has anyone thought about building replica Horses?

Gott Mit Uns · Post by **Gott Mit Uns** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:13 pm

Fwbl Dollman wrote:Has anyone thought about building replica Horses?

You could build them out of foam and say your horses were blown up in an Allied naval bombardment.....wheres Golly??

Hoffman Grink · Post by **Hoffman Grink** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:14 pm

With an electric motor in the body and wheels driven by hoover belts in the bottom of the feet. WOW! That woudl look great. YOu could fit a sound chip and have walking, trotting, cantering and galloping noises..... three speed stickshift off a Raleigh Chopper.......

Does anyone have any plans?

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