Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
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Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
Just bought a WW1 M16 shell
I WAS (am) going to restore it for WW2 Finnish use ~ BUT ~ there's some very faded WW2 red paint/lettering on the rear:
HELL ??? "a reversed SWASTIKA" ???? GOEBBELS ???? GOERING
(the ???? are the bits that are currently illegible...)
A mate is using some photo editing software to see what the faintest letters are.
Do I go ahead and restore it, or leave it as is & keep my fingers crossed that I get lucky & find another M16 in the correct size?
I WAS (am) going to restore it for WW2 Finnish use ~ BUT ~ there's some very faded WW2 red paint/lettering on the rear:
HELL ??? "a reversed SWASTIKA" ???? GOEBBELS ???? GOERING
(the ???? are the bits that are currently illegible...)
A mate is using some photo editing software to see what the faintest letters are.
Do I go ahead and restore it, or leave it as is & keep my fingers crossed that I get lucky & find another M16 in the correct size?
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
Get yourself another helmet shell there's a plenty for sale on E-bay or I-offer etc.
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
grenadier Biermann wrote:Get yourself another helmet shell there's a plenty for sale on E-bay or I-offer etc.
I've been after one for ages , a shell size big enough for a 60 liner ( 67/68 ? ) ... I regularly trawl ebay and ebay.de , and so far ....... Nuffink
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
O.K. I understand I will check for you another servers around the Europe How much do you want spend on it ? Cheers BiermannHalle wrote:grenadier Biermann wrote:Get yourself another helmet shell there's a plenty for sale on E-bay or I-offer etc.
I've been after one for ages , a shell size big enough for a 60 liner ( 67/68 ? ) ... I regularly trawl ebay and ebay.de , and so far ....... Nuffink
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Once you find one though...it's gonna go for €600 at least, a 64 shell go for min €300...and that's with damage.Halle wrote:grenadier Biermann wrote:Get yourself another helmet shell there's a plenty for sale on E-bay or I-offer etc.
I've been after one for ages , a shell size big enough for a 60 liner ( 67/68 ? ) ... I regularly trawl ebay and ebay.de , and so far ....... Nuffink
Arthur
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
Grenadier Biermann - thank you for your offer - well , I'll pay what they're worth , of course ...
Herr Leutnant , I know you are right , but ..... The Windjacke ? One has to be patient ...
Horrido !
Herr Leutnant , I know you are right , but ..... The Windjacke ? One has to be patient ...
Horrido !
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
The cost of a replacement is the problem, as the M16 shell I have is an Si 66 - which I did not know until I received it - and exactly the shell size I require!Oberleutnant Ulrich wrote:Once you find one though...it's gonna go for €600 at least, a 64 shell go for min €300...and that's with damage.Halle wrote:grenadier Biermann wrote:Get yourself another helmet shell there's a plenty for sale on E-bay or I-offer etc.
I've been after one for ages , a shell size big enough for a 60 liner ( 67/68 ? ) ... I regularly trawl ebay and ebay.de , and so far ....... Nuffink
Having given it much thought, as the WW2 lettering is so indistinct and partly covered by some older white paint it will be close to impossible to restore it as a WW2 curio - as removing the white paint will take off the red paint underneath it.
May have to just look at a full restoration of the 66 shell instead...as that's why I bought the shell...
Pity. IF shells were more common/cheaper I'd have probably made a different decision...
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
The shells are actually fairly common, just way over priced as it's a fad item during these goods times where so many people have the money and time for so many different hobbies...but could you maybe post a picture?
Stabs Halle, you're just one lucky SOB and you know it
Stabs Halle, you're just one lucky SOB and you know it
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Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
and because WW1 started 100 years ago and the interest in collecting anything WW1 (across the internet).
graham
graham
Re: Quandry re. WW1 M16 helmet
Well....a bit of time has passed
BUT
Saturday 4th June....crack/damage to front crown of helmet welded up.
It now looks like a WW1 M16 helmet shell again.
I just need to dress off the weld, decide on which RAL colour paint to buy, sand/prep the shell....then paint it.
I did have a nice repro chinstrap picked out from a US vendor but they've stopped listing them.
The shell has one original brass ring/clip still present, so I may use this as a template then make up/buy a pair of adjustment buckles.
Not sure on liner options yet.
May keep it WW1 type (3 pad design/leather band), may use an M31.
The aim is for a correct WW2 Finnish looking helmet, so may add a Finnish pattern liner.
At the same time I had this welded I also had a few minor weld repairs done to a Swedish M37 shell & Hungarian M38 shell.
The M37 will get a set of new cannibalised pads from a Swedish M26 helmet....the Hungarian M38 will possibly get an M31 liner.
They're both also in need of new paint.
BUT
Saturday 4th June....crack/damage to front crown of helmet welded up.
It now looks like a WW1 M16 helmet shell again.
I just need to dress off the weld, decide on which RAL colour paint to buy, sand/prep the shell....then paint it.
I did have a nice repro chinstrap picked out from a US vendor but they've stopped listing them.
The shell has one original brass ring/clip still present, so I may use this as a template then make up/buy a pair of adjustment buckles.
Not sure on liner options yet.
May keep it WW1 type (3 pad design/leather band), may use an M31.
The aim is for a correct WW2 Finnish looking helmet, so may add a Finnish pattern liner.
At the same time I had this welded I also had a few minor weld repairs done to a Swedish M37 shell & Hungarian M38 shell.
The M37 will get a set of new cannibalised pads from a Swedish M26 helmet....the Hungarian M38 will possibly get an M31 liner.
They're both also in need of new paint.