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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:54 pm 
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A Full kit list will be issued later

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:50 am 
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KIT LIST MUST HAVE
Wool uniform (Heer,SS,Luft)
Long johns Yep you will need the at -25c
Good Winter parka and trousers
Service head gear for the unit you portray Fur cap
Belt
Gloves
Scarf or toque or both
Boots with the boots felt type ,Low boots * Modern boots are ok **
Sleeping bag
We will not let you out in the field with out any of the above as Frostbite is a real danger !!
Field Kit
Bread bag
Mess kit
water bottle +cup
Ammo pouches
Zelt
and a back back Wartime looking

*Low boots try to get 3 (Three) pairs of socks on thick wool ones
** Modern boots are ok if the look correct for the time
last year the night time temps were -17c to -30c learn the information below

LEARN IT MAY SAVE YOURS OR ANOTHERS LIFE
we are playing at war but the danger of Hypothermia and Frostbite are REAL
Normal body temperature in humans is 36.8°C (98.2°F). Hypothermia can be divided in three stages of severity.

* Stage 1

Body temperature drops by 1-2°C (1.8-3.6°F) below normal temperature (35-37°C or 95-98.6°F). Mild to strong shivering occurs. The victim is unable to perform complex tasks with the hands; the hands become numb. Blood vessels in the outer extremities constrict, lessening heat loss to the outside air. Breathing becomes quick and shallow. Goose bumps form, raising body hair on end in an attempt to create an insulating layer of air around the body (which is of limited use in humans due to lack of sufficient hair, but useful in other species). Often, a person will experience a warm sensation, as if they have recovered, but they are in fact heading into Stage 2. Another test to see if the person is entering stage 2 is if they are unable to touch their thumb with their little finger; this is the first stage of muscles not working.

* Stage 2

Body temperature drops by 2-4°C (3.8-7.6°F). Shivering becomes more violent. Muscle mis-coordination becomes apparent. Movements are slow and labored, accompanied by a stumbling pace and mild confusion, although the victim may appear alert. Surface blood vessels contract further as the body focuses its remaining resources on keeping the vital organs warm. The victim becomes pale. Lips, ears, fingers and toes may become blue.

* Stage 3

Body temperature drops below approximately 32 °C (89.6 °F). Shivering usually stops. Difficulty speaking, sluggish thinking, and amnesia start to appear; inability to use hands and stumbling is also usually present. Cellular metabolic processes shut down. Below 30 °C (86.0 °F), the exposed skin becomes blue and puffy, muscle coordination becomes very poor, walking becomes almost impossible, and the victim exhibits incoherent/irrational behavior including terminal burrowing or even a stupor. Pulse and respiration rates decrease significantly, but fast heart rates (ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation) can occur. Major organs fail. Clinical death occurs. Because of decreased cellular activity in stage 3 hypothermia, the body will actually take longer to undergo brain death.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:38 pm 
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Any one needing boots ? Size 41 DDR winter boots
http://cgi.ebay.de/FILZSTIEFEL-DDR-NVA- ... _718wt_698

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:22 pm 
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First off those that are coming please PM me with your German (reenacting names ) and unit information .
There will be no range this year as there has been a change in the law

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:07 pm 
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Ok, i've booked the flight arrive on the 16th feb and depart the 21st.

if i'm not mistaken Joel you have my german details.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Thats true good sir I do :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:00 pm 
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The rules speak of weapons need to be carried around, are there deact weapons available (like last time)?
Because we that travel by plane, can't bring our deact's

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:17 pm 
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Yes sir we will have some weapons there

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:47 am 
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Franz repper wrote:
Yes sir we will have some weapons there


Yes, I will try to organize some weapons, both own and loaned, depends what car I will use to get there. Unfortunately I can not arm the whole company, but main point of the event is not on weapons training. In theory we will have some 98k's, some machine pistols and perhaps an MG34 or 42.

IF you have a de-ac or otherwise legal gun you absolutely insist to use feel free to send it to my home address via courire or air freight before the happening, and the gun will be waiting for you in the training area. Some airlines, such as Finnair, do allow guns on board as long as they are carried in the cargo hold and not in the cabin as hand luggage.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:08 pm 
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Ewald Koch wrote:
Franz repper wrote:
Yes sir we will have some weapons there


Some airlines, such as Finnair, do allow guns on board as long as they are carried in the cargo hold and not in the cabin as hand luggage.


But don't try this on Ryanair otherwise you will experience some issues as I did in Oktober ;-) Even empty magazines are assimilated to "gun parts" and not even allowed in the cargo hold ...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:23 pm 
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No use bringing our own de-ac's along on the plane (Ryan Air).

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:12 pm 
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OK, then we'll have some guns on the house. Too bad we don't have possibiliy to use firing range this year, but the new tricks and new accomodation + training area will compensate the lack of firing guns.

By the way, do remember to take your SOLDBUCHs with you. Feldgendarmerie will be there asking for proper ID documents, and you may be issued some paperwork to keep inside your Soldbuch. If we warm up the sauna you will get de-lousing certificate from it and so on.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:26 am 
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OK here is a map of the new training area
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A view to the lake
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Zeltplatz the tent area
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Sauna and Fist aid post warm water and first aid will be here
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survival training area here you will be making shelters
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The trench

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:32 am 
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some originals of winter training ,ski patrol in Finland
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:26 am 
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Very nice!

There is not such nicer place to organize this kind of event, than a snowy Finnish terrain with a lake and sauna in it! :)

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