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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:46 am 
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@ Heeresbergführer:
@ Feldjager: comparison shots would be great, of course!

are there any confirmed original german ww2 tents out there showing other
colours than tan?


I have got an original Gebirgsverbindezelt (used as a operating theatre by Hauptverbandplatz of the Gebirgsjäger Sanitats Kompanie) which is now a very pale grey (near white). Under the seams it was a stone grey fabric - having seen Tentsmith's grey fabric, it's a little bit too light, even after 60 years of fading. Over the years I've seen about 40 or so of the Stabzelt, and all have been varying shades of tan and brown for the Tp marked ones. Never seen any green tents or found a reference to them - not to say they didn't exist though.

The Stabszelt folds down to about 2' square and about 8" high. You then have the ropes, poles and pegs. Overall weight is probably about 40lbs.

I'll try and get some shots soon - I have to get them out of storage first!

Here's the Gebirgsverbindezelt:
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This is my original Gebirgsgruppenzelt:
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And this is the frame tent I was referring to:
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:53 pm 
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very nice, I more & more like the Gebirgstruppenzelt

being curious: what's the size & weight packed of it?

just a tip: I think our tent might be called "Gebirgs- Verbindungszelt" instead of "Gebirgsverbindezelt"

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Gott Mit Uns wrote:
Question: why are we trying to move re-enactment back 8 years? People have literally busted their balls to produce quality reproduction tents, and then when they fail (due to supply issues) we go straight back to British army 10lb tents within 2 seconds flat? Its a total mickey take. If your going to use Brit army stuff, why dont you just wear swiss camo whilst your at it? Well, its close enough...... :roll:

My zeltbahn gib was abit tongue in cheek, but seriously now, just think - you can make a 10 man tent out of zeltbahns, it looks period, costs as much and looks the dogs danglies. Orrrr, you can use a heavy, pain in the ass, "look alike" British tent, which now everyone knows what the original German ones look like, know it looks nothing like them.

I can see the prices of these British tents shooting up again now - in preparation for the onslaught of re-enactors...


Thanks for that point Gott mit
I have Zelts but even when buttoning 8 together they are too low, besides i want a larger
type for display purposes, if you can think of a repro German tent supplier that sells tents
for reasonable prices that don't take the piss then please share that info and we will all buy
one, but judging from events ive gone to some reenactors are still ten years behind as they
are still using ex surplus tents :?:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:33 pm 
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koobleguy wrote:
very nice, I more & more like the Gebirgstruppenzelt

being curious: what's the size & weight packed of it?

just a tip: I think our tent might be called "Gebirgs- Verbindungszelt" instead of "Gebirgsverbindezelt"


I thought that as well, but all the original documents refer to it as a 'Gebirgsverbindezelt' (always all one word). As a contrast, the regular sanitatstruppen used a 'Verbindezelt' which is also referred to as 'Operationszelt' in the manual (merkblatt 53d/63 - dated November 43).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:41 pm 
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Oh, that's interesting - always learning :wink:

Feldjager wrote:
koobleguy wrote:
very nice, I more & more like the Gebirgstruppenzelt

being curious: what's the size & weight packed of it?

just a tip: I think our tent might be called "Gebirgs- Verbindungszelt" instead of "Gebirgsverbindezelt"


I thought that as well, but all the original documents refer to it as a 'Gebirgsverbindezelt' (always all one word). As a contrast, the regular sanitatstruppen used a 'Verbindezelt' which is also referred to as 'Operationszelt' in the manual (merkblatt 53d/63 - dated November 43).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:37 pm 
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Thats Our reproduction of Grosse Truppenzelt. Many thanks to Feldjager and Patrick for info input :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:01 am 
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Peiper wrote:
Gott Mit Uns wrote:
Question: why are we trying to move re-enactment back 8 years? People have literally busted their balls to produce quality reproduction tents, and then when they fail (due to supply issues) we go straight back to British army 10lb tents within 2 seconds flat? Its a total mickey take. If your going to use Brit army stuff, why dont you just wear swiss camo whilst your at it? Well, its close enough...... :roll:

My zeltbahn gib was abit tongue in cheek, but seriously now, just think - you can make a 10 man tent out of zeltbahns, it looks period, costs as much and looks the dogs danglies. Orrrr, you can use a heavy, pain in the ass, "look alike" British tent, which now everyone knows what the original German ones look like, know it looks nothing like them.

I can see the prices of these British tents shooting up again now - in preparation for the onslaught of re-enactors...


Thanks for that point Gott mit
I have Zelts but even when buttoning 8 together they are too low, besides i want a larger
type for display purposes, if you can think of a repro German tent supplier that sells tents
for reasonable prices that don't take the piss then please share that info and we will all buy
one, but judging from events ive gone to some reenactors are still ten years behind as they
are still using ex surplus tents :?:


Simples - get 15 zelts instead. Make a long sectioned pole.....and your cooking on gas....well.....we know what happens when people do that in zelts..... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:10 am 
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They get called a farb?
The gebirgstruppenzelt does look a good bit like an 80lb or even 160lb tent? Lower walls and no ridge pole but the style is there. How do they compare size wise?

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The Gebirgsgruppenzelt is 5m long, 4 m wide and 2.1m at the ridge.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:27 pm 
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Yuri wrote:
Thats Our reproduction of Grosse Truppenzelt. Many thanks to Feldjager and Patrick for info input :wink:


Hi Yuri,

is your tent also from the tentsmiths?

@ Feldjager: do you also have approx. size & weight of the Gebirgstruppenzelt packed?

because that would also be a criteria which one to choose, thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:42 pm 
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Heeresbergführer wrote:
Tentsmiths in the USA makes great tents. They make both the large and small Staff Tent (Stabszelt), the Truppenzelt, as well as a Gebirgsgruppenzelt (though it is not shown on their website).

http://www.tentsmiths.com/


Gruss gott Heeresbergfuhrer :)

Nice Staff tents but it seems no poles are included, is this correct ?

Just a quick couple of questions if you wouldn't mind, the prices are
$635 (small size) $725 (large size), would you know the exchange in
sterling and also would you have any idea of postages prices to UK as
it is not mentioned on their web-page ???

Sorry to be a pain but thought i would ask you as you have recommended them.

Regards Peiper

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:05 pm 
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FFS LOZ! Google Currency Converter and do it yourself!!!! :roll:
Reenactors seem to always want someone else to do the legwork then still bitch about folks when they do!!!!!!

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http://www.xe.com

Don't forget: ((Price + CIF shipping) x duty rate) + VAT = actual cost.

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FRESH DELIVERY OF TOILET PAPER FOR FELDJAGER! :lol:

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@ peiper: I wrote an email to the tentsmiths, not replied yet,
as soon as I have the answers, I'll post them,

yes, no poles included, but you can order them extra,
prices are on the website

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