Warning to all German re-enactors
Moderator: johankreig
Warning to all German re-enactors
PLease read the following email sent to me by a pal, It will effect you if this gets out of hand.
Dear all.
Hope everyone is well.
My apologies to those of you who don't know so let me introduce myself to
you. My name is Jack Beckett and I am the admin of http://www.hmvf.co.uk a military
vehicle website.
I would dearly love to draw your attention to a post that have been made on
my forum. Please visit this link
http://www.hmvf.co.uk/index.php?option= ... pic=2204.8 and
click on the You tube link in the post. It doesn't need to me to say
anything on the vulgarities of this SS re-enacting video, this has naturally
caused complete outrage on the site. This is a public site and anyone can
view it but even more to the point, the You Tube website is available to
millions........
I am not too sure if this group is UK best and I am hoping for the sake of
all of us and all of our movements that this group is quickly controlled and
'handled' before to many people see this. As you can see by the comments
left on the forum that this bunch of ill informed 'humans' could cause the
collapse of the movement and we shouldn't never ever seriously underestimate
the damage this can cause.
One of our members works for the tabloids and as he rightly said "I agree
totally with the correspondent wondering what the likes of The Sun or
another tabloid would make of it. They would destroy us. Make no bones about
it. I know how they operate. All you need is a flat news period without any
nonsense to fill pages and they will be looking for victims" Let me
reiterate, this is serious and the is big trouble in the making.
You may not be the people who I should be speaking to but something
obviously has to be done, immediately and I know you guys are all
professionals and some of you are part of the LHA and I hope between us all,
we can some how manage this for the good of all of us and for the memories
of those who we are honoring and this is seriously left a nasty taste in my
mouth.
Many thanks for your help and look forward to hearing from you.
Jack.
Jack Beckett.
http://www.hmvf.co.uk
The home of Historic Military Vehicles
Everyone is talking about it.
Dear all.
Hope everyone is well.
My apologies to those of you who don't know so let me introduce myself to
you. My name is Jack Beckett and I am the admin of http://www.hmvf.co.uk a military
vehicle website.
I would dearly love to draw your attention to a post that have been made on
my forum. Please visit this link
http://www.hmvf.co.uk/index.php?option= ... pic=2204.8 and
click on the You tube link in the post. It doesn't need to me to say
anything on the vulgarities of this SS re-enacting video, this has naturally
caused complete outrage on the site. This is a public site and anyone can
view it but even more to the point, the You Tube website is available to
millions........
I am not too sure if this group is UK best and I am hoping for the sake of
all of us and all of our movements that this group is quickly controlled and
'handled' before to many people see this. As you can see by the comments
left on the forum that this bunch of ill informed 'humans' could cause the
collapse of the movement and we shouldn't never ever seriously underestimate
the damage this can cause.
One of our members works for the tabloids and as he rightly said "I agree
totally with the correspondent wondering what the likes of The Sun or
another tabloid would make of it. They would destroy us. Make no bones about
it. I know how they operate. All you need is a flat news period without any
nonsense to fill pages and they will be looking for victims" Let me
reiterate, this is serious and the is big trouble in the making.
You may not be the people who I should be speaking to but something
obviously has to be done, immediately and I know you guys are all
professionals and some of you are part of the LHA and I hope between us all,
we can some how manage this for the good of all of us and for the memories
of those who we are honoring and this is seriously left a nasty taste in my
mouth.
Many thanks for your help and look forward to hearing from you.
Jack.
Jack Beckett.
http://www.hmvf.co.uk
The home of Historic Military Vehicles
Everyone is talking about it.
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- Jugendkrieger
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As has been said, this is an American group. I was at another foreign show this year where prisoners were shot in front of the public. I, and I think the rest of the Brits, were to say the least, a bit gob-smacked. Even more so when the public cheered. Our hosts were surprised when we told them what the reaction would be here. We have no control over what groups in different countries do but I do get the impression the sooner or later, they all end up reading this forum. So, all I can is, guys, if you read this, please don’t do it. It causes us no end of grief.
- Steve Das Reich
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Not so, Dave Page has pointed out the fact that the group is an American unit.
But my concern is the one who feels he is the morale leader and expresses the view that W SS re enactment should not be done !
But my concern is the one who feels he is the morale leader and expresses the view that W SS re enactment should not be done !
SS Unterscharfurer Stefan Klein
2Kp. SS Aufklärungs Abt. Das Reich
"Wir gehen voran"
http://www.wars.uk.net/
2Kp. SS Aufklärungs Abt. Das Reich
"Wir gehen voran"
http://www.wars.uk.net/
- Steve Das Reich
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I have re visited the site in question.
If we look at the comments made further down the list we find;
If we look at the comments made further down the list we find;
Actually the filming of the execution was the American paratrooper leaders idea. He wanted to get it on film as part of the battle for the day...That kind of thing rarely happened in the war, let alone being video taped.
SS Unterscharfurer Stefan Klein
2Kp. SS Aufklärungs Abt. Das Reich
"Wir gehen voran"
http://www.wars.uk.net/
2Kp. SS Aufklärungs Abt. Das Reich
"Wir gehen voran"
http://www.wars.uk.net/
Posted my reply on YouTube:
I'm an SS re-enactor in the UK and we avoid public excecutions. We openly discuss them with the public when asked but this sort of glorification gives SS re-enactment a bad name across the world. It was a good video and well done to all the guys involved but it would have been just as good without the excecution scene. Remember " it was his idea not mine" is no excuse. I would also like to make it clear that this film has nothing to do with any SS group in the UK.
I'm an SS re-enactor in the UK and we avoid public excecutions. We openly discuss them with the public when asked but this sort of glorification gives SS re-enactment a bad name across the world. It was a good video and well done to all the guys involved but it would have been just as good without the excecution scene. Remember " it was his idea not mine" is no excuse. I would also like to make it clear that this film has nothing to do with any SS group in the UK.
The Teutonic reputation for brutality is well founded. There operas last for three or four days and they have no word for fluffy.
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