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 Post subject: Luftwaffe fieldjager
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:04 pm 
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Looking at putting together a 2nd impression of a Luftwaffe feldjager, (curerently do HG feldgendarmerie)

I have seen a repro feldjager gorget for sale with Luftwaffe eagle and not the standard herr eagle, I have tried to resurch this item but can find very little evidence (well none actually) of this actually being used. What I have read so fare indicates that Luftwaffe units wore the herr eagle as standard.

Is it real item or a figmant of somebodys imagionation. Any advice before spending the cash unessecery.

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They are a real gorget and not just an invention of an over active mind.

I was told a long time ago by a collector friend that they only seem to have been used by the Hermann Goring Regiment Feldgendarm and at special posts like the Luft HQ in Berlin, all other photos you see of Luft Feldgendarmerie have the standard Wehrmacht gorget.


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 Post subject: feldjage gorget
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:35 am 
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Hi Noily,

thanks for the reply, I currently use the feldemarie luftwaffe gorget as you indicated, and are correct it was worn by HG division. The gorget in question I am refereing to though is the feldjager gorget, virtually the same but instead of saying feldgendarmerie it says feldjager.

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Question...
Wasn't the red armband more common? FG Gorget and red FeldJagerKorps armband worn on the forearm of the tunic?

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The Feldjagerkorps were only ever deployed by the Heer (there were 3 Feldjagerkorps, originally titled I II and III) The Luftwaffe/Kreigsmarine/SS did not deploy them (not to say they didn't serve alongside them).

I'd not touch a Feldjager gorget with a lufty eagle with a bargepole. I've checked and double checked everything I can get my hands on, and its a fake. Feldjagerkorps gorfgets are rare and expensive - about £1000+ at the moment. There are some very good 1970s copies available which some dealers are passing off as originals - caveat emptor.

Feldjagerkorps uniform was that of an infantryman (white waffenfarbe), plus the gorget and red armband.

See my article here http://www.panzergrenadier.net/forum/vi ... .php?t=549 for more info.

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Thanks for that Dave - I once, many years ago saw a guy in a Frundsberg uniform doing FJK with said red armband.... It stuck with me... but I never researched it as it's not my area....

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repro feldjager gorget
- That will teach me to read the post better next time - right answer to the wrong question :lol:

And thanks to Feldjager for the correct answer :)


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I know by reading my Osprey book on the German Military Police Units 1939-45, that the Feldjägerkommand III (I and II fought on the Ostfront) were resposible for aiding the U.S. Army when the war was over. They were still fully armed and fully equiped and remained on duty. Remember the part where the the U.S. Airborne trooper and the Feldgend are talking (Band Of Brothers)? One would have to assume he (German Soldat) was part of that Feldjägerkorps, that was still intact when the war was over. They did how ever lay there arms down as late as 23 June 1946. Along time huh?


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Quoting Major Richard Winters when he was confronted with approximately 14,000 armed German soldiers in the vicinity of Zell am See, Austria, on the 9th of May 1945: "Nobody had told me, to the best of my knowledge, how to handle it. I think that I made this up on the spur of the moment. They [the Germans] worked out fine - there was no trouble between us. We weren't looking for any trouble because I only had about a battalion at that time - about 400 men probably, and we were vastly over-numbered. They could have wiped us out with the back of their hand, so you were careful about how you were talking and how you were acting because you didn't want to be ambushed here, and they could have wiped us out in a minute. The German military police were guarding their senior officers and any other duties they performed were left up to the Germans themselves. After telling them what I wanted them to do, and assigning them the areas that we wanted them to gather in and standby, I just pulled out and let them run their own show - I wasn't there to be a policeman. These guys were Prussian, professional soldiers, and I was a civilian soldier. You saw them [German military policemen] as you passed by, and they were standing in a doorway, and they were top-notch soldiers. They commanded your respect as a soldier and they were very professional. They ceased their duties after about 10 days to 2 weeks, when all the German POW's were moved out of Austria".

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