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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:21 pm 
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You can still buy Bolex clockwork 16mm cameras for around £100 on ebay. The post war ones are slightly different to the 1940s ones but only an expert would know. It's a bit more heavy duty than a pocket 8mm. Expired film stock can be got with a bit of hunting and a cheap process and telecine is about £200 for 500 feet (17 mins of footage). Or you could just shoot without film if all you want is a satisfying whirr from the camera :-)


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:46 am 
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BedsnHerts wrote:
You can still buy Bolex clockwork 16mm cameras for around £100 on ebay. The post war ones are slightly different to the 1940s ones but only an expert would know. It's a bit more heavy duty than a pocket 8mm. Expired film stock can be got with a bit of hunting and a cheap process and telecine is about £200 for 500 feet (17 mins of footage). Or you could just shoot without film if all you want is a satisfying whirr from the camera :-)


I keep seeing these Bolex cameras circa 1940's for under $150 on ebay... are you sure they were used in WW2 by the Germans? I'm looking for an alternative to the Arriflex.. something reasonably priced to make unit movies with.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:14 am 
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You mean the Bolex H16 ?


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:38 am 
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You could go for an H8 instead. Visually similar and much cheaper to use to actually produce film.

I have never seen a picture of one in use by German forces though (cue posts of lots of photos to support this :D ).

The info on issue cameras was from 'A reporter in hell' written by a serving PK and this does not list bolex as an issue make.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:45 am 
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SchutzeHagemann wrote:
are you sure they were used in WW2 by the Germans? I'm looking for an alternative to the Arriflex.. something reasonably priced to make unit movies with


Not for official PK use as far as I know but almost certainly as home movie cameras by soldiers with deeper pockets.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:56 pm 
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Can recommend this DVD as well, good mixture of Official and private footage
Mit der Kamera an der Ostfront
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLAqusFveCs

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:05 pm 
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Hi Guys , this may interest you ....

Just picked up an Arriflex 35 , its unfortunately a post war IIa ( sorry to disapoint ), identical to the War time version externally , cosmetically and in configuration , except for the made in West Germany in tiny writing on the lower camera door , the 180 shutter I believe is different , along with the mirror for the lens , but these are internal differences , so in effect a Wartime appearance camera ( as later versions from the IIb upwards are cosmetically different ) , certainly in silouhette , the camera was reasonably :oops: priced and works , hence my choice and I can use my set of Eyemo lenses as the attatchments are compatible , just the iconic matte box to source...

My promblem now is the battery box , what is its construction ?, metal or wood , does it have a canvas or leather strap ? its difficult to tell from the B&W photos , once I have built this I will look at power , as the motor works and I have the leads , but I will have to mock up a battery box as there appears to be no originals or a modern or newer substitute ?.

My thoughts are at the moment to scale up the Dragon battery box provided with the action figure , this looks a reasonable bet , what does anybody think , I am open to ideas here ...

I am hoping to have this out by Mappledurham in April 2014 at least to practise with if not to film ...

For those that know us , we usually use Bell and Howe Eyemo and Filmos and re enact as US , it will be good to complement this with the German role

Many thanks , Jason , Many Fronts Living History


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:13 am 
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Can't believe I didn't see this post earlier, had asked a question a whiles back (viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21124) and this spot had the answers! SchutzeHagemann, If I may ask, where did you find that photo of that Offizier with the Cine' kodak model 25?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:15 pm 
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jason litt wrote:
Hi Guys , this may interest you ....

Just picked up an Arriflex 35 , its unfortunately a post war IIa ( sorry to disapoint ), identical to the War time version externally , cosmetically and in configuration , except for the made in West Germany in tiny writing on the lower camera door , the 180 shutter I believe is different , along with the mirror for the lens , but these are internal differences , so in effect a Wartime appearance camera ( as later versions from the IIb upwards are cosmetically different ) , certainly in silouhette , the camera was reasonably :oops: priced and works , hence my choice and I can use my set of Eyemo lenses as the attatchments are compatible , just the iconic matte box to source...

My promblem now is the battery box , what is its construction ?, metal or wood , does it have a canvas or leather strap ? its difficult to tell from the B&W photos , once I have built this I will look at power , as the motor works and I have the leads , but I will have to mock up a battery box as there appears to be no originals or a modern or newer substitute ?.

My thoughts are at the moment to scale up the Dragon battery box provided with the action figure , this looks a reasonable bet , what does anybody think , I am open to ideas here ...

I am hoping to have this out by Mappledurham in April 2014 at least to practise with if not to film ...

For those that know us , we usually use Bell and Howe Eyemo and Filmos and re enact as US , it will be good to complement this with the German role

Many thanks , Jason , Many Fronts Living History



Just a picture to Illustrate the impression and the camera ....
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